Recognizing Weather Data in P50/P90 Analysis

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22 Jan 2015 14:07 #2986 by amartinez
Hello:

I am having issues with SAM recognizing weather files for P50/P90 analysis. I have 15 years of weather data for my particular project site in TMY format. (I have also converted it to SAM format using the macro functionality, but that did not seem to help.) I can run each of the files individually in a normal simulation run, but when I try to point to the file folder for P50/P90 analysis it does not recognize the files. SAM indicates that "it is not possible to empirically determine the P90 value with less than 10 years of weather data".

It gives me this message after it scans the folder and indicates the 15 files are present.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Andrew

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23 Jan 2015 10:06 #2987 by pgilman
Dear Andrew,

Are you using the "_yyyy" convention for the file name (for example: weather_file_1990.csv, weather_file_1991.csv)?

You also might try running the weather file checker macro on each file to be sure there is not a formatting issue that is preventing SAM from recognizing the file as a weather file.

If you have a way to share the files with me, I would be happy to investigate further. You can either compress them into a .zip file and email them to me at sam dot support at nrel dot gov, or email me a link to the files on a file sharing service (Dropbox or similar).

Best regards,
Paul.

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27 Jan 2015 12:56 #2988 by pgilman

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27 Jan 2015 14:46 #2989 by kalimazoop
Replied by kalimazoop on topic Recognizing Weather Data in P50/P90 Analysis
Thanks for posting this Paul. I went through this process recently and discovered some problems with certain historical files downloaded from the Solar Prospector. I went to Solar Prospector directly instead of downloading them through SAM. I adjusted the data format to align with the SAM Expected format outlined in the "build a weather file" guidelines under help. The SAM "build a weather file" macro did not work on these files.

I discovered the following in the P50/P90 program function:
- the hourly timestamp hase to be 0-23. The files I got had 1-24
- It does no like leap years. It processes the data but does not display the result. The files with leap years get noted in the error log.
- Some Prospector files do not have RH.
- Some Prospector file headers do not line up with typical CSV weather file format that SAM likes. May require moving non-solar values into columns to line up with headers.
- Weather file checker will note a -RH value at a certain address that does not really exist.
- SAM requires to be restarted several times to remove old iterations of macro checks or analysis with faulty files.

It would be nice to have a P50/P90 results report generator.

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27 Jan 2015 14:49 #2990 by kalimazoop
Replied by kalimazoop on topic Recognizing Weather Data in P50/P90 Analysis
Paul, could you clarify how the historical files can be downloaded from the prospector through SAM?

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27 Jan 2015 16:02 #2991 by kalimazoop
Replied by kalimazoop on topic Recognizing Weather Data in P50/P90 Analysis
nevermind, I just noticed you can select a specific year from the drop down in the download section.

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