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                12 Nov 2013 15:52                #1928
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        I have a question concerning my CSP model in Solar Advisor Model. Is there a possibility to use the elsewhere calculated thermal input of the solar field for SAM? So that there is no need to fill in the Solar field and SCA/HCE input parameters?
The CSP Generic Solar System model option allows you to describe the solar field using a table of optical efficiency values. Is that what you need?
To use the model, when you create a new file or case in SAM, choose the Generic Solar System option under Concentrating Solar Power.
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Paul.
    
    The CSP Generic Solar System model option allows you to describe the solar field using a table of optical efficiency values. Is that what you need?
To use the model, when you create a new file or case in SAM, choose the Generic Solar System option under Concentrating Solar Power.
Best regards,
Paul.
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                14 Nov 2013 00:50                #1929
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        Replied by pklotz on topic Thermal Input Solar Field            
    
        Hello Paul, thanks for the fast answer.
The generic Model only provides a table where you can type in optical efficiencies as a function of various azimuth and zenith angles. I do have hourly weather data of 1 year and the corresponding DNI, where cosine-effects, etc. are already included.
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Peter
    
    The generic Model only provides a table where you can type in optical efficiencies as a function of various azimuth and zenith angles. I do have hourly weather data of 1 year and the corresponding DNI, where cosine-effects, etc. are already included.
Best regards,
Peter
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                14 Nov 2013 09:53                #1930
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        Hi Peter,
I don't think I quite understand what you want to do, but it sounds like it may not be possible with SAM. What exactly do you want to use as input to the model? '
If you have your own weather data that you would like to use with SAM's physical trough model, you can either use SAM's TMY3 Creator , or use a text editor or spreadsheet program to create a file in the SMW format . You will need data for each of the columns that appear in the table on the TMY3 Creator window.
If you have solar field thermal output data from a different model that you would like to use as input to SAM's thermal energy storage and power block models, there is not a way to use that data in SAM.
Best regards,
Paul.
    
    I don't think I quite understand what you want to do, but it sounds like it may not be possible with SAM. What exactly do you want to use as input to the model? '
If you have your own weather data that you would like to use with SAM's physical trough model, you can either use SAM's TMY3 Creator , or use a text editor or spreadsheet program to create a file in the SMW format . You will need data for each of the columns that appear in the table on the TMY3 Creator window.
If you have solar field thermal output data from a different model that you would like to use as input to SAM's thermal energy storage and power block models, there is not a way to use that data in SAM.
Best regards,
Paul.
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                15 Nov 2013 08:56                #1931
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        Hello Paul,
my input data for a whole year looks as follows:
Date, Hour of the year, Direct normal irradiation (W/m2), Hourly DNI-cosine effect product (W/m2)
1.1.11 0:00 1 0 0
1.1.11 1:00 2 0 0
1.1.11 2:00 3 0 0
1.1.11 3:00 4 0 0
1.1.11 4:00 5 0 0
1.1.11 5:00 6 0 0
1.1.11 6:00 7 0 0
1.1.11 7:00 8 2,33 2
1.1.11 8:00 9 251,94 192
1.1.11 9:00 10 647 419
1.1.11 10:00 11 478 258
1.1.11 11:00 12 52 24
1.1.11 12:00 13 790 366
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Kind regards,
Peter
    my input data for a whole year looks as follows:
Date, Hour of the year, Direct normal irradiation (W/m2), Hourly DNI-cosine effect product (W/m2)
1.1.11 0:00 1 0 0
1.1.11 1:00 2 0 0
1.1.11 2:00 3 0 0
1.1.11 3:00 4 0 0
1.1.11 4:00 5 0 0
1.1.11 5:00 6 0 0
1.1.11 6:00 7 0 0
1.1.11 7:00 8 2,33 2
1.1.11 8:00 9 251,94 192
1.1.11 9:00 10 647 419
1.1.11 10:00 11 478 258
1.1.11 11:00 12 52 24
1.1.11 12:00 13 790 366
...
Kind regards,
Peter
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                15 Nov 2013 08:58                #1932
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        Oh sorry, this used to be a table    
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                15 Nov 2013 10:56                #1933
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