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Understanding Battery Dispatch Outputs
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08 Jan 2025 14:16 #13795
by Mason
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Hi Paul and team,
I am modeling a BTM battery system with the following key parameters:
Many thanks!
I am modeling a BTM battery system with the following key parameters:
- Dispatch: Retail Rate Dispatch, and no ($0) Cycle Degredation Penalty
- Electric Rates: a TOU plan with a period of significantly higher prices each day
- Demand charges: minimal demand charges
Many thanks!
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10 Jan 2025 17:06 #13805
by Paul Gilman
Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Understanding Battery Dispatch Outputs
Hi Mason,
Thank you for sending the file, and for your patience while we investigate this.
There are a couple of things we need to change about the retail rate dispatch option for it to work as you expect. You can track our work on that on GitHub here: github.com/NREL/ssc/issues/1272
We originally implemented this for PV+Storage, and there are some considerations for standalone batteries that we need to address.
Also, in your file, you chose the Buy All / Sell All metering option (on the Electricity Rates page), which effectively assumes that there are two separate meters: One to measure power from the grid to the battery and load, and another to measure power from the battery to the grid. This means that the battery increases the electricity bill (compared to the "without sytem" bill) because power to charge the battery must be purchased at the appropriate buy rate as defined in the energy rates table. Is this what you are trying to model?
Best regards,
Paul.
Thank you for sending the file, and for your patience while we investigate this.
There are a couple of things we need to change about the retail rate dispatch option for it to work as you expect. You can track our work on that on GitHub here: github.com/NREL/ssc/issues/1272
We originally implemented this for PV+Storage, and there are some considerations for standalone batteries that we need to address.
Also, in your file, you chose the Buy All / Sell All metering option (on the Electricity Rates page), which effectively assumes that there are two separate meters: One to measure power from the grid to the battery and load, and another to measure power from the battery to the grid. This means that the battery increases the electricity bill (compared to the "without sytem" bill) because power to charge the battery must be purchased at the appropriate buy rate as defined in the energy rates table. Is this what you are trying to model?
Best regards,
Paul.
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11 Jan 2025 13:09 #13806
by Mason
Replied by Mason on topic Understanding Battery Dispatch Outputs
Thank you Paul and team,
To your question on metering and billing, I was simply trying to model a system that did not compensate for any excess energy returned to the grid. Given your comment, I think net billing with $0 sell price would the the more appropriate option. To confirm, I still experience the same relative lack of battery cycling as described originally, and greatly appreciate you all checking it out!
Best,
Mason
To your question on metering and billing, I was simply trying to model a system that did not compensate for any excess energy returned to the grid. Given your comment, I think net billing with $0 sell price would the the more appropriate option. To confirm, I still experience the same relative lack of battery cycling as described originally, and greatly appreciate you all checking it out!
Best,
Mason
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