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Total POA Irradiance not equal to front + back?
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12 Sep 2024 00:53 #13426
by JReagan
Total POA Irradiance not equal to front + back? was created by JReagan
I'm attempting use recorded weather data to model the irradiance onto the front and back of a vertical system and compare to the vertical reference cells we have set up.
I'm looking at,
1. "Subarray 1 POA front total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
2. "Subarray 1 POA rear total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
3. "Subarray 1 POA total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
And noticing that 3 seems to be less than the sum of 1 and 2. Is there some additional loss calculation that comes in before the total is calculated?
I'm looking at,
1. "Subarray 1 POA front total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
2. "Subarray 1 POA rear total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
3. "Subarray 1 POA total irradianceĀ after reflection (IAM) (W/m2)"
And noticing that 3 seems to be less than the sum of 1 and 2. Is there some additional loss calculation that comes in before the total is calculated?
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12 Sep 2024 17:38 #13430
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Total POA Irradiance not equal to front + back?
Hello,
From my initial investigation, it looks like 3 should be 1 + ( 2 * bifaciality factor ):
github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L2393
When I try that equation, I get a small discrepancy between the values I calculate and those in SAM that I think is due to rounding. I'll investigate further and let you know what I find.
Best regards,
Paul.
From my initial investigation, it looks like 3 should be 1 + ( 2 * bifaciality factor ):
github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L2393
When I try that equation, I get a small discrepancy between the values I calculate and those in SAM that I think is due to rounding. I'll investigate further and let you know what I find.
Best regards,
Paul.
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12 Sep 2024 22:34 #13432
by JReagan
Replied by JReagan on topic Total POA Irradiance not equal to front + back?
It seems an odd choice that bifaciality factor would be applied when calculating total POA irradiance rather than afterward when calculating resulting DC output, but good to know. I'll keep that in mind.
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16 Sep 2024 09:38 #13435
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Total POA Irradiance not equal to front + back?
It looks like the reason 3 is less than the sum of 1 and 2 is that the bifacial model applies an electrical mismatch loss that is not included in 2.
The rear total irradiance after reflection value is recorded here in Line 1967: github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L1967
And the mismatch loss is applied later, in Line 2064: github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L2064
I think the reasoning for this is that although the model applies the electrical mismatch loss to the rear-side irradiance, because it is an electrical loss, it does not make sense to show its effect on the rear-side irradiance.
Best regards,
Paul.
The rear total irradiance after reflection value is recorded here in Line 1967: github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L1967
And the mismatch loss is applied later, in Line 2064: github.com/NREL/ssc/blob/274560a9eba141154f7dd52a8d3e0fe5690b3b84/ssc/cmod_pvsamv1.cpp#L2064
I think the reasoning for this is that although the model applies the electrical mismatch loss to the rear-side irradiance, because it is an electrical loss, it does not make sense to show its effect on the rear-side irradiance.
Best regards,
Paul.
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