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Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue
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                22 Mar 2022 13:47                #10721
        by Lou Tenney
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue was created by Lou Tenney            
    
        Hi Paul,
Running SAM 2021.12.2 on Windows. I set up a wind merchant plant and noticed two issues.
Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.
- Lou
    Running SAM 2021.12.2 on Windows. I set up a wind merchant plant and noticed two issues.
- First, attempting to download Cambium data resulted in a "Cambium Error from API".
- I subsequently selected "fixed cleared capacity and time series price" under energy market revenue, input a price /MWh in Single Value mode, and input 100% of generation, but found that the model produces no revenue.
Let me know what you think and thanks in advance.
- Lou
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                28 Mar 2022 11:50         -  28 Mar 2022 11:52        #10735
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        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue            
    
        Hi Lou,
My tests confirm that there is a problem with the Cambium price data download. I will investigate and follow up when I learn more.
Your approach of using the fixed cleared capacity and time series price with 100% cleared capacity worked for me. Could you send me a .sam file that demonstrates the results you describe?
Best regards,
Paul.
    My tests confirm that there is a problem with the Cambium price data download. I will investigate and follow up when I learn more.
Your approach of using the fixed cleared capacity and time series price with 100% cleared capacity worked for me. Could you send me a .sam file that demonstrates the results you describe?
Best regards,
Paul.
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                28 Mar 2022 15:46                #10748
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        Replied by Lou Tenney on topic Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue            
    
        Hi Paul,
Thanks for your reply. I've attached the .sam file. Curious to hear your thoughts.
- Lou
    
    Thanks for your reply. I've attached the .sam file. Curious to hear your thoughts.
- Lou
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                28 Mar 2022 19:06         -  28 Mar 2022 19:06        #10749
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        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue            
    
        Hi Lou,
Thank you for sending the file.
This looks like a bug with the way the table in the Edit Lifetime Data window works. A workaround is to use the Hourly mode instead of Single Value mode and set the price for all rows in the table to the same value. You can export the table of zeroes to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet program or a text editor to replace them with the value you want. For example, to set the price to a constant $49/MWh:
We will fix this for the next update to SAM 2021.12.02.
Best regards,
Paul.
    Thank you for sending the file.
This looks like a bug with the way the table in the Edit Lifetime Data window works. A workaround is to use the Hourly mode instead of Single Value mode and set the price for all rows in the table to the same value. You can export the table of zeroes to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet program or a text editor to replace them with the value you want. For example, to set the price to a constant $49/MWh:
- On the Revenue page, on the Energy Market tab, click Enable energy market revenue.
- Choose Fixed cleared capacity and time series price.
- For Energy market price for fixed cleared capacity, click Edit lifetime data.
- Change the mode from Single Value to Hourly.
- Click Export, and save to a file with the .csv extension.
- Open the file in a spreadsheet program or text editor, replace zero with the constant price of 49, and save the file.
- In SAM, assuming the Edit Lifetime Data window is still open, click Import and choose the file from Step 6.
- Click OK.
- Set the value of Energy market fixed cleared capacity to a percentage of the generation in a given time step.
We will fix this for the next update to SAM 2021.12.02.
Best regards,
Paul.
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                11 Apr 2022 15:37                #10830
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        Replied by Lou Tenney on topic Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue            
    
        Hi Paul,
Were you able to figure out why the Cambium price data download isn't working?
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    Were you able to figure out why the Cambium price data download isn't working?
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                11 Apr 2022 16:41                #10831
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        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Wind Merchant Plant - Cambium error + no revenue            
    
        Hi Lou,
There is an open issue for the Cambium download problem. We will fix this for the next update:
github.com/NREL/SAM/issues/991
Best regards,
Paul.
    There is an open issue for the Cambium download problem. We will fix this for the next update:
github.com/NREL/SAM/issues/991
Best regards,
Paul.
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