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Hourly Wind Production
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09 Jun 2021 19:33 #9686
by rrebenitsch
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I ran a simulation for a 300 MW wind project in a high wind area and in sorting the hourly wind data to produce a load duration curve, I found that the peak hourly production throughout the year never exceeded 252 MW (although the 250 MW level was reached over 900 times during the year.
It seems the peak hourly production should be closer to 300 MW during high wind times (at least a few hours out of the year)
Can you explain this anomaly?
It seems the peak hourly production should be closer to 300 MW during high wind times (at least a few hours out of the year)
Can you explain this anomaly?
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10 Jun 2021 10:40 - 10 Jun 2021 10:40 #9689
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Hourly Wind Production
Hi Ron,
There are several things that could be causing the wind farm's peak output to be less than its nameplate capacity:
Best regards,
Paul.
There are several things that could be causing the wind farm's peak output to be less than its nameplate capacity:
- The turbine layout and wake model parameters on the Wind Farm page could reduce the wind farm's power output, depending on how far apart the turbines are.
- Losses on the Losses input page.
- Curtailment or interconnection limit on the Grid Limits page.
Best regards,
Paul.
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10 Jun 2021 13:36 #9691
by rrebenitsch
Replied by rrebenitsch on topic Hourly Wind Production
Paul;
Thank you for your quick response.
I agree that some losses are to be expected, and I've accounted for that. I'm just screening some sites, using the SAM's default settings for a 300 MW project, assuming 3 MW turbines. The default losses shown are about 11% (absent mtce/curtailment). That is why I'm puzzled by the 17% losses (250 MW from a 300 MW project) during the peak wind hours.
I'm just wondering what I'm missing?
Ron R
Thank you for your quick response.
I agree that some losses are to be expected, and I've accounted for that. I'm just screening some sites, using the SAM's default settings for a 300 MW project, assuming 3 MW turbines. The default losses shown are about 11% (absent mtce/curtailment). That is why I'm puzzled by the 17% losses (250 MW from a 300 MW project) during the peak wind hours.
I'm just wondering what I'm missing?
Ron R
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11 Jun 2021 16:34 #9697
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Hourly Wind Production
Hi Ron,
If you would like me to review your .sam file to see if I can explain those results, please attach it to a reply.
Best regards,
Paul.
If you would like me to review your .sam file to see if I can explain those results, please attach it to a reply.
Best regards,
Paul.
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14 Jun 2021 11:29 #9707
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Hourly Wind Production
Hi Ron,
Thank you for emailing your file.
As an estimate of what to expect, I used the following information:
Wind farm size: 303 MW
Total loss: 17.8%
Expected peak output: 303 MW * ( 1 - 17.8%/100% ) = 250 MW
The sum of the various losses on the Losses input page is 16.7%, and there's an additional 1.1% loss from the wake model. You can display all of the loss values on the Data Tables tab of the Results page and export them to a spreadsheet:
Best regards,
Paul.
Thank you for emailing your file.
As an estimate of what to expect, I used the following information:
Wind farm size: 303 MW
Total loss: 17.8%
Expected peak output: 303 MW * ( 1 - 17.8%/100% ) = 250 MW
The sum of the various losses on the Losses input page is 16.7%, and there's an additional 1.1% loss from the wake model. You can display all of the loss values on the Data Tables tab of the Results page and export them to a spreadsheet:
Best regards,
Paul.
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