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Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel
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07 Aug 2020 07:04 - 07 Aug 2020 09:35 #8532
by Alfred Abukubu
Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel was created by Alfred Abukubu
Modeling a DSG for non-electrical purposes using once through boiler for saturated steam (no superheater modules).
I have a system that optimizes steam design parameters ( steam rate, steam temperature etc). Which can be inputted to SAM and estimate potential performance in regards to the solar field steam rate, temperature and efficiencies.
The field is a single loop system with a SM of 0.962, Field thermal output of 7.48005 MWt, Design thermal input power of 7.7778 MWt.
However, I am having issues with the simulation when I make changes to values to mass flow rate and temperature. The simulation seems to run then freezes for certain values of mdot_min and temperature.
Any reason as to what might be the reason or conditions for such response from the simulator.
Thanks
I have a system that optimizes steam design parameters ( steam rate, steam temperature etc). Which can be inputted to SAM and estimate potential performance in regards to the solar field steam rate, temperature and efficiencies.
The field is a single loop system with a SM of 0.962, Field thermal output of 7.48005 MWt, Design thermal input power of 7.7778 MWt.
However, I am having issues with the simulation when I make changes to values to mass flow rate and temperature. The simulation seems to run then freezes for certain values of mdot_min and temperature.
Inlet Temp (C) | Outlet Temp (C) | Single Loop Flow Rate (kg/s) | Simulation Process |
50 | 254 | 0.25 | Successful (100%) |
50 | 254 | 2.00 | Freezes/Hangs (12.3%) |
100 | 254 | 2.00 | Successful (100%) |
100 | 254 | 5.00 | Freezes/Hangs (11.3%) |
100 | 310 | 2.00 | Successful (100%) |
100 | 310 | 5.00 | Freezes/Hangs (2.5%) |
Any reason as to what might be the reason or conditions for such response from the simulator.
Thanks
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07 Aug 2020 09:38 #8533
by Paul Gilman
Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel
Hi Alfred,
Are you getting these results using the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam model for electricity generation, or from the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam - Heat model for industrial process heat (IPH) applications?
If you are using the former, you might want to try the IPH model instead.
Best regards,
Paul.
Are you getting these results using the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam model for electricity generation, or from the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam - Heat model for industrial process heat (IPH) applications?
If you are using the former, you might want to try the IPH model instead.
Best regards,
Paul.
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07 Aug 2020 12:50 #8534
by Alfred Abukubu
Replied by Alfred Abukubu on topic Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel
Hi Paul,
I was using the former, I had tried the IPH model, but the performance in terms of outlet temperature ( which I think is the steam temperature) was not encouraging at all.
And a target outlet temperature can not be entered in SAM for IPH model to ensure reaching such values.
So tried using the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam model for electricity generation but in a way to kind of bypass or limit power cycle effects. Any thoughts towards such approach would be much appreciated
Regards,
Alfred
I was using the former, I had tried the IPH model, but the performance in terms of outlet temperature ( which I think is the steam temperature) was not encouraging at all.
And a target outlet temperature can not be entered in SAM for IPH model to ensure reaching such values.
So tried using the Linear Fresnel Direct Steam model for electricity generation but in a way to kind of bypass or limit power cycle effects. Any thoughts towards such approach would be much appreciated
Regards,
Alfred
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07 Aug 2020 20:35 #8535
by Ty Neises
Replied by Ty Neises on topic Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel
Hi Alfred,
The IPH Direct Steam model does not have an input for target outlet temperature, but you can implicitly set the outlet temperature by calculating the corresponding saturation pressure and setting "Heat sink inlet pressure" on the System Design page to that value. Will that work for your analysis?
Thanks,
Ty
The IPH Direct Steam model does not have an input for target outlet temperature, but you can implicitly set the outlet temperature by calculating the corresponding saturation pressure and setting "Heat sink inlet pressure" on the System Design page to that value. Will that work for your analysis?
Thanks,
Ty
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08 Aug 2020 05:04 #8536
by Alfred Abukubu
Replied by Alfred Abukubu on topic Simulation freezes with CSP Direct linear fresnel
Thanks for your recommendation. It was very helpful
Best Regards,
Alfred
Best Regards,
Alfred
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