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Output convective losses in CSP project
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                13 Dec 2011 02:41                #100
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        Output convective losses in CSP project was created by vmpakirtzoglou            
    
        Hi.
I am using SAM 2011.12.2 and I have created a CSP project with Parabolic Trough (physical) and the simulation works fine.
However, I would like to know if there is a way to output the hourly data on the convective losses from the outer glass of the envelope to ambient (perhaps employing user variables?). Alternativelly, if this cannot be output, is there a way to get the hourly temperature of the outer surface of the receiver?
Moreover, the variable "Receiver Thermal Losses" (MWh, hourly) indicated by SAM Support team, counts for both convective and radiation losses.
Could we split or isolate somehow the convective losses?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
    I am using SAM 2011.12.2 and I have created a CSP project with Parabolic Trough (physical) and the simulation works fine.
However, I would like to know if there is a way to output the hourly data on the convective losses from the outer glass of the envelope to ambient (perhaps employing user variables?). Alternativelly, if this cannot be output, is there a way to get the hourly temperature of the outer surface of the receiver?
Moreover, the variable "Receiver Thermal Losses" (MWh, hourly) indicated by SAM Support team, counts for both convective and radiation losses.
Could we split or isolate somehow the convective losses?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
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                13 Dec 2011 14:02                #101
        by Paul Gilman
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Output convective losses in CSP project            
    
        SAM's physical trough model does not report either the receiver convective losses or the receiver outer surface temperature in the results.
The receiver loss calculations are described in Section 2.4 of the physical trough reference manual, which you can download from the Reference Manuals page of this website (see the link under the Resources menu).
Best regards,
Paul.
    The receiver loss calculations are described in Section 2.4 of the physical trough reference manual, which you can download from the Reference Manuals page of this website (see the link under the Resources menu).
Best regards,
Paul.
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                13 Dec 2011 15:11                #102
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        Replied by iskias on topic Output convective losses in CSP project            
    
        I was wondering if there are any plans to include such output values in a future version of SAM. The T2-T5 temperatures (ref. to the thermal model of the receiver), for example, would provide an insight of the receiver performance, whereas the receiver convenctive losses would be useful for assessing the effects of a CSP to the microclimate of the installation area.
Thanks again.
    Thanks again.
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                14 Dec 2011 11:02                #103
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        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Output convective losses in CSP project            
    
        We currently have no plans to report the receiver temperatures or convective losses in SAM results. The code does not calculate these values in a way that makes it straightforward to report in results.
Best regards,
Paul.
    Best regards,
Paul.
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