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Startup time and Stand-by period
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                19 Oct 2012 09:34                #973
        by A Labanda
    
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
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        Dear Paul,
This question refers to the Parabolic Trough Physical Model.
I am afraid that I do not understand SAM’s logic involving the change between operating modes 1 and 2.
The question is: Is start-up time always needed to begin generating electricity?
It is clear for me that in the morning, the first time of the day that SF+TES+Aux reach/exceed min heat turbine needs, the plant should pass through a start-up period in which turbine becomes operational. But then, once you are in Mode 2, if a lack of resource takes the plant to standby period (Mode 1), it is necessary to pass through start-up time again when solar resource becomes available?
I read in SAM’s help that standby period is a startup ready state, but it is not clear for me if that means that the plant does not need to do a new startup (which I think logical) or if the plant is ready to start the start-up operation.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Alejandro
    
    This question refers to the Parabolic Trough Physical Model.
I am afraid that I do not understand SAM’s logic involving the change between operating modes 1 and 2.
The question is: Is start-up time always needed to begin generating electricity?
It is clear for me that in the morning, the first time of the day that SF+TES+Aux reach/exceed min heat turbine needs, the plant should pass through a start-up period in which turbine becomes operational. But then, once you are in Mode 2, if a lack of resource takes the plant to standby period (Mode 1), it is necessary to pass through start-up time again when solar resource becomes available?
I read in SAM’s help that standby period is a startup ready state, but it is not clear for me if that means that the plant does not need to do a new startup (which I think logical) or if the plant is ready to start the start-up operation.
Thanks in advance and best regards,
Alejandro
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                19 Oct 2012 15:55         -  09 Jun 2025 11:10        #974
        by Paul Gilman
    
    
    
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic Startup time and Stand-by period            
    
        Dear Alejandro,
Please see the physical trough reference manual for a description of how SAM calculates startup energy. You can search the document for the word "startup" to find the relevant passages.
You can find a link to the manual from the Performance Models page on the SAM website.
Best regards,
Paul.
    Please see the physical trough reference manual for a description of how SAM calculates startup energy. You can search the document for the word "startup" to find the relevant passages.
You can find a link to the manual from the Performance Models page on the SAM website.
Best regards,
Paul.
        Last edit: 09 Jun 2025 11:10  by Paul Gilman.            
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