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Hybrid CSP+PV generation
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08 Apr 2019 05:01 #6741
by Maneliba
Dear all,
Is there any possibility to simulate hydrid systems in SAM? Let's say CSP Power Tower molten salt coupled with PV installations? How could I manage?
Thanks in advance. Sincerely, manuel
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Dear all,
Is there any possibility to simulate hydrid systems in SAM? Let's say CSP Power Tower molten salt coupled with PV installations? How could I manage?
Thanks in advance. Sincerely, manuel
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08 Apr 2019 12:17 - 18 May 2023 09:30 #6742
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Hybrid CSP+PV generation
Hello,
You could use the "Combine Systems" macro to add the hourly output of the two systems together to approximate the performance of a hybrid power tower / PV system.
UPDATE: As of SAM 2021.12.02, the Combine Cases macro is replaced by the Calculate generation profiles and nameplate capacity from open cases option on the Power Plant page for the Generic System model and Generic Battery model. See the SAM YouTube channel for a short tutorial .
To use the macro, first create a SAM file with two cases, one for the power tower system and the other for the PV system. You might give the cases names like "PV" and "Tower" so you can easily identify them. For each case, choose the financial model you want to use for the project, for example the PPA Single owner model. (If you aren't familiar with cases in SAM, see the Getting Started section in SAM's Help system for a description of how to work with them.)
For each of the two cases, configure the system and run some test simulations to make sure the results are what you expect. Assign installation and operating costs on the System Costs page for each case, but ignore the other financial model inputs on the Financial Parameters, Incentives, Time of Delivery Factors, and Depreciation pages.
Next, create a third case using the "Generic System" performance model with the same financial model as the one you used for the PV and power tower cases. Give it a name like "Project" or "Generic." Ignore inputs the Power Plant, Lifetime, Battery Storage and System Costs page. For the financial input pages, assign inputs as appropriate for your project.
Finally, click the Macros button (under Simulate), and then click the "Combine Cases" macro and read the description and instructions. Everything should be set up to run the macro with the "1) Combine all cases" option.
The macro uses the Generic System's "import hourly or subhourly generation profile" option (you can find it on the Power Plant page) to use the combined output of the two systems as input into the financial model so that you can calculate net present value, internal rate of return, PPA price, and other metrics for the two systems. In this example, the macro would add the hourly output of the PV and power tower system and treat that as the output of the combined system.
Best regards,
Paul.
You could use the "Combine Systems" macro to add the hourly output of the two systems together to approximate the performance of a hybrid power tower / PV system.
UPDATE: As of SAM 2021.12.02, the Combine Cases macro is replaced by the Calculate generation profiles and nameplate capacity from open cases option on the Power Plant page for the Generic System model and Generic Battery model. See the SAM YouTube channel for a short tutorial .
To use the macro, first create a SAM file with two cases, one for the power tower system and the other for the PV system. You might give the cases names like "PV" and "Tower" so you can easily identify them. For each case, choose the financial model you want to use for the project, for example the PPA Single owner model. (If you aren't familiar with cases in SAM, see the Getting Started section in SAM's Help system for a description of how to work with them.)
For each of the two cases, configure the system and run some test simulations to make sure the results are what you expect. Assign installation and operating costs on the System Costs page for each case, but ignore the other financial model inputs on the Financial Parameters, Incentives, Time of Delivery Factors, and Depreciation pages.
Next, create a third case using the "Generic System" performance model with the same financial model as the one you used for the PV and power tower cases. Give it a name like "Project" or "Generic." Ignore inputs the Power Plant, Lifetime, Battery Storage and System Costs page. For the financial input pages, assign inputs as appropriate for your project.
Finally, click the Macros button (under Simulate), and then click the "Combine Cases" macro and read the description and instructions. Everything should be set up to run the macro with the "1) Combine all cases" option.
The macro uses the Generic System's "import hourly or subhourly generation profile" option (you can find it on the Power Plant page) to use the combined output of the two systems as input into the financial model so that you can calculate net present value, internal rate of return, PPA price, and other metrics for the two systems. In this example, the macro would add the hourly output of the PV and power tower system and treat that as the output of the combined system.
Best regards,
Paul.
Last edit: 18 May 2023 09:30 by pgilman.
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22 Jan 2022 05:28 #10540
by PabloGR
Replied by PabloGR on topic Hybrid CSP+PV generation
Dear all,
Does SAM still have the option to hybridize systems?
Thanks in advance. Pablo.
Does SAM still have the option to hybridize systems?
Thanks in advance. Pablo.
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24 Jan 2022 16:42 #10541
by pgilman
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18 Mar 2022 18:56 #10711
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Hybrid CSP+PV generation
This short video on the SAM YouTube channel demonstrates how to use the feature:
Best regards,
Paul.
Best regards,
Paul.
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18 Apr 2022 10:40 #10844
by eganhulu
Replied by eganhulu on topic Hybrid CSP+PV generation
is there a way so that hybrid CSP/PV (CSP and PV have a capacity of 50 MW each) can complement each other to release 50 MW of energy at a time automatically? (For example, if PV is only able to produce 25 MW during the day, then CSP will automatically release 25 MW)
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