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                25 Sep 2017 07:24                #5759
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        Hi Paul,
I have simulated a PV-battery system in SAM. After simulations it generates as a result the following losses: AC inverter efficiency loss (3.1%), AC connected battery loss (1.25%) and Inverter power consumption loss (1.2%) and System energy losses (17400 kWh/year). In addition, the Tab Losses in the results section give some compound losses: soiling (5%) and module (7%).
What is it mean the losses in percentage? From the total system losses 3.1% is lost through the inverter efficiency, 1.25% is due to the battery losses, and so on? Or it represent annual daily mean losses?
Thank you advance.
Giovani Dávi
    
    I have simulated a PV-battery system in SAM. After simulations it generates as a result the following losses: AC inverter efficiency loss (3.1%), AC connected battery loss (1.25%) and Inverter power consumption loss (1.2%) and System energy losses (17400 kWh/year). In addition, the Tab Losses in the results section give some compound losses: soiling (5%) and module (7%).
What is it mean the losses in percentage? From the total system losses 3.1% is lost through the inverter efficiency, 1.25% is due to the battery losses, and so on? Or it represent annual daily mean losses?
Thank you advance.
Giovani Dávi
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                25 Sep 2017 15:37         -  27 Jul 2022 16:58        #5760
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        Replied by Paul Gilman on topic System losses            
    
        Dear Giovani,
SAM calculates those loss percentages to display in the diagram on the Losses tab. The losses are annual values, and the percentages apply to annual totals. They are meant to make it easier to compare different sources of losses and to identify the largest sources of losses in your system design.
For example, your results suggest that relatively more power is lost from converting DC power from the photovoltaic array to AC through the inverter than converting battery power between AC and DC.
The AC losses (AC battery loss, AC wiring, transformer loss, and AC availability and curtailment) apply to the gross AC energy value.
Please see these posts for related discussions:
Losses section and sankey diagram doesn't make sense or add up
Module loss
Loss diagram calculations 
Best regards,
Paul.
    SAM calculates those loss percentages to display in the diagram on the Losses tab. The losses are annual values, and the percentages apply to annual totals. They are meant to make it easier to compare different sources of losses and to identify the largest sources of losses in your system design.
For example, your results suggest that relatively more power is lost from converting DC power from the photovoltaic array to AC through the inverter than converting battery power between AC and DC.
The AC losses (AC battery loss, AC wiring, transformer loss, and AC availability and curtailment) apply to the gross AC energy value.
Please see these posts for related discussions:
Losses section and sankey diagram doesn't make sense or add up
Module loss
Loss diagram calculations 
Best regards,
Paul.
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                26 Sep 2017 10:00                #5761
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        Ok Paul. Thank you very much.
Best regards,
Giovani
    Best regards,
Giovani
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                26 Jul 2022 08:44                #11291
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        Replied by Gabriel Simões on topic System losses            
    
        Good morning, Paul.
Do you have theses updated links? They are taking me to a 'Article not found' page.
Thank you
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    Do you have theses updated links? They are taking me to a 'Article not found' page.
Thank you
Best Regards
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                27 Jul 2022 16:59                #11294
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        Hi Gabriel,
I fixed those broken links. (You can also use the search box above to find topics like this.)
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Paul.
    I fixed those broken links. (You can also use the search box above to find topics like this.)
Best regards,
Paul.
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