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Generic CSP with Fossil Fuel Backup
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14 Apr 2016 10:30 #4277
by charles.k.cox
Generic CSP with Fossil Fuel Backup was created by charles.k.cox
I am trying to model a generic CSP system with a fossil fuel backup. In the user guide it directs me to the Trough System Costs page. However, when I visit that page it shows that I should be able to input a fossil fuel cost in terms of $/MMBtu. Yet, in SAM I do not see this as an option in the Generic CSP model. I do see it in the Tower and Trough models though.
Is there a way to change this fossil fuel cost in the Generic CSP model? I am hoping to run a sensitivity analysis based on different fossil fuel costs. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Is there a way to change this fossil fuel cost in the Generic CSP model? I am hoping to run a sensitivity analysis based on different fossil fuel costs. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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14 Apr 2016 11:20 #4278
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Generic CSP with Fossil Fuel Backup
Dear Charles,
What version of SAM are you using?
In the current version, SAM 2016.3.14, for the Generic CSP model, the fossil fuel cost is on the System Costs page, under "Operation and Mainteance Costs" at the bottom of the page. The fossil fuel cost is also available as a parametric input variable.
Best regards,
Paul.
What version of SAM are you using?
In the current version, SAM 2016.3.14, for the Generic CSP model, the fossil fuel cost is on the System Costs page, under "Operation and Mainteance Costs" at the bottom of the page. The fossil fuel cost is also available as a parametric input variable.
Best regards,
Paul.
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15 Apr 2016 00:30 #4279
by charles.k.cox
Replied by charles.k.cox on topic Generic CSP with Fossil Fuel Backup
Dear Paul,
I am using the current version. I should have been more specific - I am in the Generic CSP LCOE calculator model. I see that the fossil fuel cost is an input in the other Generic CSP models. I had intended on using the simplified LCOE calculator model but I may need to rethink this.
Best regards,
Charlie
I am using the current version. I should have been more specific - I am in the Generic CSP LCOE calculator model. I see that the fossil fuel cost is an input in the other Generic CSP models. I had intended on using the simplified LCOE calculator model but I may need to rethink this.
Best regards,
Charlie
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18 Apr 2016 14:04 #4280
by pgilman
Replied by pgilman on topic Generic CSP with Fossil Fuel Backup
Dear Charlie,
Thanks for the clarification. Now your question makes more sense!
As you note, the LCOE Calculator model does not have an input for the fossil fuel cost. You would have to include the fuel cost in the variable operating cost category as a $/kWh cost. One way to work around this would be to run a simulation once to determine the amount of fossil fuel used (SAM reports that value on the Data tab under "Hourly" and on the Time Series tab, and as monthly and annual totals on the Statistics tab), calculate the fuel cost based on that value, and then run a second simulation to calculate the LCOE.
If you are familiar with programming or scripting languages, you could write an LK script to automate that process.
Best regards,
Paul.
Thanks for the clarification. Now your question makes more sense!
As you note, the LCOE Calculator model does not have an input for the fossil fuel cost. You would have to include the fuel cost in the variable operating cost category as a $/kWh cost. One way to work around this would be to run a simulation once to determine the amount of fossil fuel used (SAM reports that value on the Data tab under "Hourly" and on the Time Series tab, and as monthly and annual totals on the Statistics tab), calculate the fuel cost based on that value, and then run a second simulation to calculate the LCOE.
If you are familiar with programming or scripting languages, you could write an LK script to automate that process.
Best regards,
Paul.
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