Negative electric power

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17 Apr 2021 15:46 #9472 by franmoraga
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Dear community,

I am simulating a CSP plant with central tower technology. When I get the results, there are certain hours that I have a negative generation. What would be the physical explanation for that? How is it possible to have a generation less than 0? I would really appreciate if you help me understand it. I am attaching an image to make it a little clearer.
Thank you very much in advance,
Francisco

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19 Apr 2021 10:57 #9479 by pgilman
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Hi Francisco,

Negative power indicates that the system is consuming more power than it generates. In the case of a CSP power tower system, SAM models parasitic loads for electric pumps and heaters that circulate and heat the HTF at night to prevent it from freezing.

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Paul.

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19 Apr 2021 14:08 #9480 by franmoraga
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Thank you very much for your kind reply Paul. One last question please. I think that in previous versions of SAM, for CSP technology it was possible to define the "Storage Distpach" (w / solar or w / o solar). Currently that is not possible anymore? Now I only have Turb. ouput fraction. Or maybe I'm looking wrong.
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Francisco

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19 Apr 2021 16:19 #9482 by pgilman
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Hi Francisco,

As of SAM 2020.2.29, the Physical Trough model uses a new dispatch control algorithm in place of the old manually controlled method. See the Help topic for the System Control page for a description of the algorithm. It is also described in Wagner M (2018) "Optimized Dispatch in a First-principles Concentrating Solar Power Production Model" available under "Power Tower" on the CSP publications page: sam.nrel.gov/concentrating-solar-power/csp-publications.html .

If you have a reason to use a model with the old dispatch method, you can download SAM 2018.11.11.

Best regards,
Paul.

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